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in response to Alex Gordon ' Who will police the police' the IPCC will.

All I asked for was an explaination of the meaning of a particular phrase, I did not intend to start a 'debate' on who knows what latin phrase and what it may or may not mean in translation. But seeing as how it has gone that way and lost the plot of the original post by a very very very wide margin.

Can anyone give me a tranlation of the following "Nullus excretus est ex altiudine" I would be most greatful because if it means what I think it means then I fear I have been both the unwiting purpatrator and ofttime victim.

Terry

One here specially for Alan - "de minimis non curat lex".
My feeling is always that it is either the law or it isn't, you cant have it both ways. If you start to decide that something does not count just because it is so small as to be insignificant, then who decides what is small and where that cut off is between what is acceptable and what is not.

Hell - lets all do our own thing!

Pudenda majora is indeed a very specific reference to the female genitalia - no wonder the judge kept quiet.

The pudendal nerve is found in both sexes. However, pudenda majora only relates to specific parts of the female anatomy.

The judge may have assumed it was a deeply offensive insult disguised by using Latin to deliver the blow.

Of course he may also have assumed you simply got it wrong............

Will, Latin is my second language, It means what I said it means.

When my son got married he and his best man had a bet, not sure what it was but it involved speaking some of their speech's in latin and making the other translate!

As my son being the groom went first he had the advantage, however all I remember was it being utterly hilarious and discovering something about him I never knew. I was just grateful that despite his dyslexia his education had somehow sunk in! It also impressed the new father-in-law!!

I believe in fact that 'pudenda' means the opposite of what is stated above!

As an addendum to my last post, some words of warning to those who accept classical quotes from others without understanding their true meaning: 'timeo danaos et dona ferentes'.

Alan

Perhaps the judge knew what it really meant, which was why he understandably said nothing. It certainly doesn't mean what you think it means.

My own favourite, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes", who guards the guards.
Or given what is happening in the environmental movement, "Who will police the Police?"

I once got away with saying, at th end of a sucessful costs hearing that the claimants case was a 'pudenda majora', to which the judge nodded knowingly. Pudenda majora means 'major cockup', I have always wondered if he actualy knew this? Yur freindly lawyer.

Group hug, people - feel the love!

so pleased to see your return............have to think of a question for you now.

Thank you Carole, many thnaks for your kind words and appreciation. I live to serve. Your friendly lawyer.

Simon - "A man called Roman he go the house"?

Nice to have you back Alan. I personally use“Quod me non necat me confirmat"........

Now see what you have started...I find this rather interesting!

I am sorry if my comment appeared supercilious I volunteer forty hours a week advising and representing people who are unable to get high quality legal advice. Infra dig was to my mind as commonplace as per Se or ultra vires, which are common 'anglicised Latin phrases' I offer my opinion not to belittle but to forward the discussion, if I can be definitive I am and where I can advise I do. It is my understanding that these pages are for formal requests for help and the forums are for debate. I do not stray onto the debate pages as I cannot debate matters I do nit have an opinion on and enjoy hearing what you have to say about things from the front line. After all I only get approached when things have gone mammaries vertical! Thank you for your support and I hope to continue providing assistance for years to come. Your friendly lawyer.

All I got was Nil desperandum written on my Latin report card. I admire brains far more than beauty simply because it lasts longer. Intellectuals make me laugh they are usually off the wall and very funny.
We need the friendly lawyer back and we are all very sorry if we offended him.

Nec Temere Nec Timide

I know very little latin, but that is my family motto, which holds well within these forum conversations.

It means "Neither Rashly nor Timidly"

To All,

All I wanted was an explanation of the meaning of the phrase in question. This request was made only to increase my knowledge and who knows it may even be useful to use sometime in the future. I most certainly did not intend to imply any disrespect towards Alan.

Having reread my post now I see that it and maybe even this one could be taken in a slightly disrespectful way, again this is not my intention. Just evidence of my lack of advanced schooling.

@Simon, 'Romans go home' A bit late for that I think by about 1600 years and I would have thought that any who did stay are by now fully intergrated into society. I certainly do not know of any ethnic roman communities in the UK but if anyone knows different let all know.

Terry

Simon - I assume you are referring to Monty Python! Very funny........

I dont think that berating contributors language is particularly helpful. We all have our own way of expressing ourselves and at the end of the day we all give free advice and help. Slagging each other off for the way that we give it is one thing, not agreeing with the advice is a different matter.

Alan uses a particular style and I do not think he is trying to be offensive or pompous. I find his advice helpful in the main. I would much rather read his posts than some others which are very biased and judgemental.

Sorry Martin but to suggest that Work Place Law is a forum for people who do not have or had a privileged education.....are you suggesting that most HR people are thick?

romanes eunt domus

Emotional intelligence and Empathy cannot be taught. You either have it or you do not.

Understanding people and what drives or motivates them leads to a greater understanding of social interaction.

To succumb to using latin or greek in a forum where many people do not have a priviledged education just come across as being supercilious.

Indeed, beneath his dignity. Using Latin is a way of trying to appear superior to people about whose professional expertise and qualifications you have no knowledge. Given the content of the thread so far, and seeing your friendly lawyer's comments on the complete worthlessness of the opinion of a GP, I think I would suggest paying attention to Tony's explanations (which do demonstrate logical thought even though that seems to be beyond Alan's understanding).