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Ernie Smith
Member - 211 posts
17 Mar 2010 1:57PM

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John Maltby
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17 Mar 2010 1:16PM

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Barry Lang
Member - 415 posts
17 Mar 2010 1:08PM

Hello

In my humble opinion this whole thread is going to be divisive and probably needs to be removed.

Barry


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Ernie Smith
Member - 211 posts
17 Mar 2010 12:11PM

Well said Rod. I understand perfectly Gavin’s position but when these opinions are posted it does no good whatsoever to nip any debate in the bud as that just allows one side of the discussion to air their views and frustrates those who are denied the opportunity to respond. It also leads to suspicion of discriminatory censorship. Of course the posts have to be moderated and no form of abuse tolerated I just say that the moderation should be consistent considering everybody’s viewpoint. And please delete the word offence from your vocabularies or there is little of importance we can discuss in any detail. People will take offence where none is intended and if it remains an issue it will continue to be used as a debate stopper.


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Rod Chambers
Member - 14 posts
17 Mar 2010 11:47AM

Whilst I broadly agree with Gavin I would however add that the people in these forums are likely to be the people who have to deal with these problems and these kind of challenging discussions can be the most rewarding and educational.

If a teacher is a member of the BNP it does not necessarily follow that their professionalism as a teacher can be questioned.

If it is questioned for any reason...well that's why we have disciplinary procedures and regulations.


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Ernie Smith
Member - 211 posts
17 Mar 2010 11:00AM

Gavin you keep removing my last post so I wont post it again. Your action only confirms the validity of the statements I made.
Molly I think we all know the answer to your question but like you I would still like to hear it from the horses mouth.
At last it apears people are opening their eyes to what is going on and are prepared to voice their concerns. Sorry Gavin I know this is not necessarily the forum in which to do that but I didn't start this discussion although I cannot help noticing that the post that did is still there. By the way is there a reason you have deleted the name of the organisation Iftikhar represents from his original post?


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Molly Andrews
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17 Mar 2010 9:10AM

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Ernie Smith
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16 Mar 2010 8:06PM

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Ernie Smith
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16 Mar 2010 3:28PM

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16 Mar 2010 2:41PM

While we at Workplace Law appreciate that matters such as this are emotive issues, the forums on this website are intended for discussion regarding regulation and practical issues in the workplace.

We actively encourage debate and do not want to in any way restrict this where it is relevant. Please make sure all comments you post are pertinent to the subject being discussed and are not liable to offend anyone else.

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Gareth
Member - 366 posts
16 Mar 2010 1:42PM

Do the government in Muslim contries shell out for segragated Christian schools?

Where is the tolerance in those contries?
At the week end there was a story in the papers about a couple in Dubai, who were arrestede because one gave the other a kiss on the cheek, which "outraged the decency" of someone in the same restaurant. The couple were told to expect a prison sentance, and were stopped from leaving the country.
A few weeks ago, also in Dubai, a woman was raped by a waiter, when she and her fiance reported the crime, she was arrested for having sex outside of marriage.
The phrase involving a pot and a kettle springs to mind!


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Ernie Smith
Member - 211 posts
16 Mar 2010 9:43AM

"Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school."
Iftikhar Ahmad

What's that about the BNP being racist and might indoctrinate school children? You're correct Phil the term racist is nothing more than a stick that is used to beat down those whose views oppose the multiculturalists.


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Anon
Member - 369 posts
15 Mar 2010 6:08PM

I do question the seemingly purposeful disinformation that religion is race.


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Ernie Smith
Member - 211 posts
15 Mar 2010 4:29PM

Iftikhar You call us a nation of racists then suggest we should fund your segregated religious schools to protect your children from our intolerance. It's comments such as this that has people flocking to join the BNP in their thousands.


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Daniel Sweeney
Member - 160 posts
15 Mar 2010 9:24AM

Extend the logic of your argument Iftikhar. The same could be said about RC/CoE schools. Thankfully the general statutory framework in the UK is that we arent allowed to discriminate on grounds of religious belief or race as you advocate. Even in Northern Ireland the 'teachers Exemption' which allowed religious schools to self recruit is on its last legs. Bottom line is that if you want a religious, segregated eductation for your children, then by all means pay for it. Dont expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.


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Iftikhar Ahmad
Member - 1 post
13 Mar 2010 11:33PM

The research evidence of the past 40 years shows that many young native children learn prejudiced attitudes before they go to school. The abuse and prejudiceSalaam

The research evidence of the past 40 years shows that many young native children learn prejudiced attitudes before they go to school. The abuse and prejudice migrant children have to put up with on a daily basis makes stamping out playgrounf racism a priority. All schools, headteachers and teachers try thier best to hide racist incidents under the carpet. They feel uncertain about how to deal with or even recognise childhood racism.

According to OFSTED, enforcement of racial equality policy is patchy. In Engliand and Wales, there were nearly 5000 racist or religiously motivated assaults that resulted in wounding and more than 26,000 cases of racial or religious harrassment in 2007-08. Britain is not a tolerent country and people are still abused and beaten because of their colour and belief. If British media demonises Muslims every day, then children will pick it up. The victim of racism suffer from self-confidence, self-esteen and learning. The teaching of citizenship is not going to help the victims of racism migrant children have to put up with on a daily basis makes stamping out playgrounf racism a priority. All schools, headteachers and teachers try thier best to hide racist incidents under the carpet. They feel uncertain about how to deal with or even recognise childhood racism.

According to OFSTED, enforcement of racial equality policy is patchy. In Engliand and Wales, there were nearly 5000 racist or religiously motivated assaults that resulted in wounding and more than 26,000 cases of racial or religious harrassment in 2007-08. Britain is not a tolerent country and people are still abused and beaten because of their colour and belief. If British media demonises Muslims every day, then children will pick it up. The victim of racism suffer from self-confidence, self-esteen and learning. The teaching of citizenship is not going to help the victims of racism

More than 250,000 racial incidents are recorded in British schools every year. Racism is on the rise among school children. The most recent figures from DCSF show that there is a 29% rise over one year in the number of pupils suspended from schools for racist abuse. This is another shocking picture of the state of race relations in Britain today.This means that racism is deep rooted and ingrained.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
Iftikhar Ahmad


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Pasc Ruggiero CFIOSH, FIIRSM
Member - 79 posts
13 Mar 2010 3:39PM

Yet another sacrifice in the glory of “PC”!
Where will this end?


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