breach of confidentality? or bullying?...

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PS i spoke to the charities commissition who say that so long as the charity is doing `some good` they tend not to rock the boat..........!!

Hi Carole,
thank you for the above post. I have gone around in circles trying to find a solicitor who will be able to deal with the many facets of this issue.
I will keep trying. Thank you also for the Equality link. i`ll get to it and keep you posted.

Debbie - despite my much earlier post suggesting a visit to a law centre and now Alan's suggestion to do the same, you seem to be ignoring this route - may I ask why? You need a solicitor, you NEED to follow James advice and get a tribunal application in.

Things have gone too far to wait for anything else and whilst you are doing so you can miss your legal opportunity to deal with this person and company.

We all understand you have no funds to take this further but a Law Centre deal with this on a daily basis. I have also advised you to ring the Equality and Human Rights Commission here is their website link http://www.equalityhumanrights.com

This is their helpline number 0845 604 6610 Any information they give you is FREE and my understanding is that if you DONT have a union they will take up your case. You can call them at any time for on going information and they will guide you through the process.

You can deal with "strong letters" later but for the moment you must get on with this before you lose your opportunity. Once that is underway then write your letters including one to the Charities Commission who may be interested on the type of people who are running a charity.
Good Luck

Debbie, if unable to find some legal support via CAB you may find local University does probono work supported by graduates of law facalty and there are employment law org on the web who provide support if not representation.

Good luck

Alan,
Thank you for your comments here. As James has picked up, i have no income at the moment to deal with the `stalker/ slanderer`and her close friends on the committee . I have been to the CAB for advice regarding free employment law advice, alas not very helpful..

James, i did get straight onto the union, as yet no response from them regarding the latest turn of events and an appeal....bless them....
I`m sure a `strong letter` on an official letter-head would shake these people up? especially if people funding this charity, conducting themselves in such a way, were `potentially` informed ?
I could do with a solicitor able to tackle the multi faceted issues that have now occurred?..
Thanks again for your comments guys

I'm not sure whether Alan's message is supposed to be an insult to anyone else on here, but I agree that you should always vet the experience and qualifications of people professing to help you.

Alan - if I understand correctly Debbie's issue is that she cannot afford to pay for a lawyer - hence people trying to offer her the advice she needs to do it herself. Is "law centre" a commercial company?

Debbie - if the "dismissal letter" was dated June 2009 (backed up by the royal mail postmark of course) then this is the best thing they could have done for you. You have three months to get a tribunal application in.

It is daunting trying to research things yourself, but it CAN be done. It would certainly be easier with a lawyer - however if you are on your own then the tribunal will make sure you get fair chances to get your case across.

First step (noting that the incident you appear to have been dismissed over occurred before the legislation change in April) is to send an Appeal letter to this employer appealing your dismissal (you need to do this for process).

Debbie, instead of seeking advice from freinds here your best course of action is to speak to an employment solicitor at a lAw Centre, as a director of a law centre I can tell you they are friendly places to visit and give initial advice over the telpehone as well as face to face, using google find your local law centre through the federation. It is painful enough to be dismissed without being mislead by well wishers. Your friendly lawyer.

James, thank you for your comments. I`ve just collected a `registered` letter from the post office in town to find that `they` have now dismissed me!! They state that as i have not responded quickly enough to their allegations, via the union, they gave me a few days!! They are also aware that there is an outstanding `procedures` regarding my complaint of bullying…where do I stand with that now? The meeting was to be arranged for next week.
The last contract I was given was from April 2006 to March 2007. The external funding for my role expired March 2009. My SSP ran out in October 2008 when they sent my sick note back with what I assumed was no further responsibility to me, I went ahead and found alternative employment. That was of course until the `bully` found out where I was working and slandered me……she has done this to three employers since March. I have enough money to pay the mortgage this month for July and then need a miracle….. HELP!!
Debbie

Erm Debbie - do I understand correctly that you last attended this workplace almost two years ago, went to work elsewhere, yet they wanted you to attend a "disciplinary meeting" with them last week?

If so - they have majorly shot themselves in the foot. I would say that this (and the refusal to accept a resignation) means that you could say that you believe there to still be an employment relationship here. This effectively means (by one school of thought at least) that you have three months from 15th June (or whenever it was) to file an employment tribunal claim.

Whereabouts in the country are you please? Surely we can find a solicitor or a HR advisor who can help you pro-bono? In my opinion you deserve it. I would be happy to help you myself - but I think someone with more knowledge/skills/experience than myself is needed.

Ooooh pants, no wonder so many people are unable mitigate the affects of or to actually protect themselves against seriously malicious individuals that may be charactorised as stalkers who can make peoples work/lives hell on earth.

Whether employed by a public body, ex-collegue or a private individual unrelated to work it is nonetheless amazing how easily they seam to be able to track their chosen subject or victim across employment or residence however many times they move.

The legal framework or infrastructure maybe well now be in place for the subject victim to seek protection from the real or implied threat sufficient to cause genuine anxiety affecting their daily lives yet few feel that they are taken seriously when seeking to use the law to protect them often being dismissed as stressed out paranoid neurotics until in the worst scenario they are found dead by their own hands or their tormentors.

All too often ending up medicated and an unemployed whistleblower seams an extreme punishment of the subject for someone elses undiagnosed and untreated mental health problems presenting or manifesting in an OCD.

So although non-professional advice maybe insufficent for purpose the well intentioned third party empathy and support may nonetheless be accepted when coming up against brick walls everywhere one turns for help and starting to doubt your own rationality and even sanity........

Sometimes deniability of a problem and the hidden distress of individuals problems needs the public exposure to make it real for those in in doubt or denial that there is actually a problem in the first place.

Good luck to all those like Debbie bogged down by that very denial and misfeasance so often used to put off dealing with a valid injustice for long enough for the complainant to breakdown, give and just go away.

Hi guys,
It all seems a bit complicated now..
I have attended their `disciplinary meeting` and have an opportunity to respond..
They will decide what to do from there.....
Debbie

I am afraid human rights law only protects rights when interfacing with a public body, an injunction would not be approproate either. An action for wages under the Wages Act 1949 would be dealt with in the Employment Tribunal not a county court. I would advise seeking advice from a qualified practitioner rather than taking advice from people who are being caught up in the furore. If I can be of assitance do please contact me for free legal advice and a case evaluation. www.jaflas.co.uk Your friendly lawyer.

It's not resigning it's constructive dismissal and i should talk to another policeman as harrassment is harrassement and you should be able to take out an 'injunction against this person' to cease and disist provided you have recorded at least one complaint with the police for harrassing and malicious behaviour (not bullying) as they are stalking you and preventing you from making a living or preventing you from 'plying your trade' in old fashioned parlance.

Also a human rights issue but seeking an injunction against them probably a better route to take along with seeking damages via a CCJ directly from your ex-employer for lost wages through the county small claims court, up to £5k or if larger sum from high court.

Hi guys and girls,
The policeman i spoke to said they have `specific` guidelines for harassment issues and the bully does not fall into their criteria?
I have no idea how this `stalker` is finding out my employment details...she is obviously in the wrong job?? she is being paid £35 / hour as a manager of a charity organisation to stalk and slander me?? I wonder what the sponsors would think about their funding being used in such a way by a `Women`s Aid` organastion whose ethos is to protect women and children !!!!
A good point about new managers believing `her`...i was with one employer six months before her slandering phone call, the manager even priasedmy professionalism and gave me a reference leading me to employment elsewhere...??!!
I am struggling to find appropriate legal advice that i can afford even through the CAB...
The organisation refused the involvement of ACAS and any outsiders as they wouldn`t want the publicity....
I have tried to ger the union to work better on my behalf ,alas the rep. just wants an easy life and says to resign....at each issue, the organisation are trying to discredit me rather than allow me to resign....

Oh Dear !!

Peopel with problems getting their Unions to help them should look at what the Union promises in it's publications and literature. If they do not meet what they are saying then write to them quite formally saying they appear to be in breach of their contract with you and setting out what you want them to do.

In other cases emntione dont hsi line the ACAS mediation or conciliation servcices might be able to help or in many areas of the Uk there are local mediation services which would be willing to help.

It also helps to look at your personnel files on a regular basis.

Hello

There is I believe legislation that covers this and it is buried in legislation that refers to harrassment, it really meant for protection of battered wives but can be used out of its original context and for different purposes.
Sorry about the rushed reply it is one of those days.

Barry

I may be way out here but instinct tells me that what she may be doing is almost criminal. Have you thought about going to the Police? people just cannot call up a company and disclose information to the point where it gets somebody dismissed and more to the point why do the companies she is calling even believe her - surely they need evidence before they act.

How does this person gain information about your whereabouts anyway - if she is truly stalking you then you should go to the Police.

There are Law Centers that will help people and do and give free or cheap Legal Advice

Many thanks for the advice above. I`m still being `stalked` by this bully...she has phoned another employer and had me dismissed!! three times since March...
She is demanding i attend a disciplinary meeting today at 4.30 to dismiss me for not wanting to work for her anymore...She has refused to accept a resignation....
Home insurance offers telephone advice but no funds to employ solicitor. Local solicitor is looking for £350 plus VAT just to have a look at my file...
I would need a solicitor with a heafty set of b.... to cope with this character..lol