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Actually Nicholas and David I think it is you that is missing the point. The title of this particular issue is Virgin Atlantic sacks 13 over Face Book comments. If an individual is subject to a legal contract which they knowingly signed then it is up to them to make sure that they don’t break the terms of that contract. That is one issue what you are talking about is quite something else altogether. Of co...
Comment | 12 Nov 2008
Virgin Atlantic has dismissed 13 staff because of comments they made on social networking site Facebook. The staff, all cabin crew, broke the company's policies, the airline said.The cabin crew had posted comments in a discussion on Facebook which Virgin Atlantic said brought the company into disrepute an...
News | 6 Nov 2008
Making comments is one thing and we are all free to do so including Virgin Atlantic staff unless we and they are bound by a contract of employment and that contract states specifically that your conduct, even in your time off, must be appropriate concerning your company and not bring it in to disrepute. I suggest that what the Virgin Atlantic staff did (as I don’t k...
Comment | 12 Nov 2008
I have not seen the comments on Facebook so I have no idea what was said so I can only now speak from my own personal point of view. If somebody wrote fictitious things about me in the public domain - newspaper or website I would have something to say about it and depending on the severity could take it further. That is my right and I ...
Comment | 21 Nov 2008
I agree there is a sense of injustice here but let us stand back a moment, we buy a ticket on a flight and thrugh no faultof our own find ourselves being dissed on facebook. That is what has happened(according to the linked article above(see top of page)) so how would you expect a firm to react? If I think you are a berk, is it right for me to make identifiable comments on a website about you or should I just keep my 'rant' private? I may be wrong but I think the fir...
Comment | 20 Nov 2008
I am not sure what you are saying - that you are an employee of the virgin group and want to post a comment - in which case read your contract of employment carefully first. If you are not an employee and want to post a comment then just watch that what you say is not something that they can later sue you for libel for - if you are going to have a rant! As everyone say...
Comment | 20 Nov 2008
...individuals probably did not quote specific procedures in relation tho their gripes, i doubt they used passengers names and it needs to be remembered that certain individualls tend to sometimes exaggerate on these types of sites and may have been a little liberal with their comments. I could the Virgin group as an employee if I so choose to, Where would Virgin stand If i decided to voice my opinions ! I do however believe that social networking sites especially one as well known as Facebook are very dangerous, for these very reasons!
Comment | 19 Nov 2008
Free speech like any freedom has t be exercised with care and dutiful respect for others, even employers. In my view as a lawyer, I would find it impossible to justify inappropriate face book comments when my client was challenged about them. Our conduct, as human beings, craving rights and freedoms must be beyond reasonable reproach; otherwise we would have to dissolve the democracy in which we enjoy the concept of freedom in the first place. Just because I have the freedom to swear in this ch...
Comment | 18 Nov 2008
...istic comment often made in cartoons, and 'indiscretions' made through either would often be vigorouly pursued through courts of law, just as now. The mention of communist Russia is meaningless as their methods in this area were the same as countless other countries previously, then, and now. The Virgin employees were not dismissed for making comments in their own time, but for making them in the public domain. Lorraine, I do generally agree with your comment, but I have been told that much of the comment on Facebook related to opinions and views of customers, some of whom raised the complaints....
Comment | 11 Nov 2008
These employees were unfortunate enough to have proof of what they think of their employers. Virgin really should try and understand why these employees are saying such things rather than denying statements made about their services or passengers, i'm sure there is an element of truth somewhere in the statements made even if they were exagerated. Employees around the globe moan about their employ...
Comment | 10 Nov 2008
... not slaves, theay go to work to earn a wage they are not owned by the company they work for and should be free to say what they wish in thier own time. This is 2008 not 1908. This society and government is ruled by big business at the expense of employees and small businesses. The treatment of the Virgin staff is similar to the tactics of communist Russia if you spoke out you were penalised in some way or jailed. Bring back free speech. No doubt David Ransome would have us all tugging our forelocks and begging for our jobs.
Comment | 8 Nov 2008
Well done Virgin I say, the individuals were apparently bringing their employers into disrepute by their actions and statements which, in many businesses, can lead to instant dismissal. Free speech, even in a democratic society, can never be truly free as it is constrained by the rules and regulations that keep it...
Comment | 8 Nov 2008
Carole, I do see the difference and I appreciate the point you are making - I was just trying to relate this specific issue to the wider question of a) whether we actually have free speech in this country (which in my opinion we plainly do not) and b) whether totally free speech is desirable anyway
Comment | 18 Nov 2008
Hi Carole, can't speak for Nicholas but I hadn't missed the point!
Comment | 13 Nov 2008
Well said Nicholas, some of which I was alluding to earlier!
Comment | 12 Nov 2008
...e have to put up with hearing things they don't want to hear - whether they are in a minority or a majority group. That is the nature of true democracy - which of course we don't have either! The current administration has banged on and on about freedom and free speech for the last 11 years but no government for a very long time has done as much to limit both. Some of us can see already what in time I think many more will come to realise - political correctness is just another form of fascism; i.e. speak as I speak, think as I think, or we'll have you.
Comment | 12 Nov 2008
disagree with david and agree with Lorraine.... Rememebr freedom of speach!!!!
Comment | 11 Nov 2008
Well said David the whole case in a nutshell. I think people should remember, Never bite the hand that feeds you.
Comment | 10 Nov 2008
So much for free speech then...
Comment | 7 Nov 2008
Mmm....The way I saw it these Social Networking sites were to bring people together in harmony not alienate people!
Comment | 7 Nov 2008