Workplace Law Network The membership site for UK employers and managers, specialising in employment law, health and safety and premises management
Only a few places left on this year's must attend facilities management conference
PPA awards Workplace Law business website of the year (paid for)
  • NETWORK
  • TRAINING
  • CONSULTING
  • BOOKSHOP
  • HOME
    • ABOUT MEMBERSHIP
    • ABOUT US
  • LATEST
    • NEWS
    • CASES
    • BRIEFINGS
    • AUDIO
    • EBULLETINS
    • WHAT THE PAPERS SAY
    • NETWORK NEWS
  • INFO CENTRE
    • WHITE PAPERS
    • FACTSHEETS
    • MAGAZINE
    • POLICIES & PROCEDURES
    • SPECIAL REPORTS
    • GUIDES
    • REGULATION FINDER
  • ADVICE CENTRE
    • ONLINE ADVICE
    • TELEPHONE ADVICE
  • FORUMS & GROUPS
    • FORUMS
    • GROUPS
  • MEMBERSHIP
    • MY PROFILE
    • SPECIAL OFFERS
    • MEMBERSHIP STATUS
  • SHOP
  • CONTACT
  • LOG IN
  • or Register now
  • You are here:
  • Network
  • Forums & Groups

Comments by steve boyle

Latest posts:

Send message

Not rated yet
Rate this!
20 Dec 2007 12:39PM

steve boyle
Member - 3 posts

To B Panchal, Andrew Cummings is correct in what he is saying, it will fall on the opinion of the medical, scheme rules and trustee's.
An alternative is medical separation based on the number of years the person has worked for you, a form of redundancy. You only have to aid them in applying for pension.
If the employee has stated that they feel that they are no adjustments that could allow a return to any role and you have considered all roles available and all possible adjustments, then you could fairly seek termination on capability, But you must follow the the strict guide lines and make sure all minutes are agreed by both employer and employee. Your medical opinion has to clearly state that they are not fit to return to work and that no adjustment would enable a return to work, if the employee has raised or mentioned adjustments could be made, you should carry out risk assessment with them involved and make sure report is agreed and signed by both. You can consult ACAS on how best to proceed if you choose to terminate, but make sure you have communicated and tried all possible avenues to retain them in employment and make sure you have agred minutes especially on the fact the employee states that no adjustment would make any difference.



Not rated yet
Rate this!
18 Dec 2007 2:53PM

steve boyle
Member - 3 posts

To Philip Jeffs, Please be aware that they are two qualifing parts, It has to be substantial(more than minor or trival) and long term(longer than 12months), the second part is that it must affect your day to day activities i.e mobility/the ability to concentrate.
Any risk assessment relating to machinery or car use could leave you open to your employer insisting that due to health and safety they can't allow you to continue in your current job role if any said adjustment are disportionate.
They could redeploy you if this is the case and it could be to a lower paid job as long as no other equal or higher roles with training available.
Worst case if risk assessment comes back stating a risk to your health and safety and the employer has no other roles they could move for dismissal on capability grounds as long as they have consider adjustments, if they start this route they should assist you in applying for your company pension.

Good Luck



Not rated yet
Rate this!
14 Dec 2007 5:29PM

steve boyle
Member - 3 posts

In reply to B Panchal, You have a duty to consider/make reasonable adjustments to enable the employee to return to work, why has it taken four years to return this employee to work with adjustments? If a reurn to work review meeting was conducted this would enable you to assess what the employee feels he needs to return and OH can assist, but if the employee insists his capable of work with the adjustments, and you do not, then consider a joint independeant risk assessment.
If you and the employee still can not find away to enable return then you should aid them in applyng for their pension which will involve a medical. Don't always go for dismissal as some people aggressively suggested as this will potentially lead you into a tribunal claim. Its about communication and exploring all possiblilities including medical retirement. If medical retirment is not an option then you will have to follow your termination procedure, this will end in a claim for unfair dissmal if the employee is not statisfied with the way they are dealt with or if they feel you could make adjustments or you failed to assist in applying for their pension.



Disclaimer

The forums are designed as a discussion area for employers and managers to exchange ideas and information, or to ask and answer questions posed by other members of the Workplace Law Network.

Please don't abuse the forums by asking questions about personal issues or by overtly promoting commercial goods and services.

We impose upon all participants the obligation to comply with our terms and conditions» but cannot guarantee that all participants will do so.

Please note that the Workplace Law Network is not able to assert editorial control or ensure moderation over the forum section of the site, and you participate at your own risk.



Fully updated for 2009
Upload your image
View my:
  • Profile
  • Downloads
  • Scrapbook
  • Order history

My messages0 (0)Shop

  • Premium membership trial

    7 days instant access to membership with no strings attached.

  • 1 minute tour

    See what the Network has to offer in just 60 seconds.

  • Membership quotamator

    Build your own membership quote online!

  • Recommend membership
  • Print friendly version

AWARDS

  • ppa logo
  • aop logo
  • Absence
  • Accidents at work
  • Alcohol/drugs
  • Asbestos
  • Building regulations
  • Bullying/harassment
  • Business continuity
  • Business regulation
  • Buying and selling property
  • Catering
  • CCTV & employee monitoring
  • Confined spaces
  • Construction
  • Consultation
  • Contract workers
  • Contracts, employment
  • Contracts, facilities management
  • Corporate killing
  • Data protection
  • Directors' responsibilities
  • Disability
  • Disciplinary, Grievance, Dismissal
  • Discrimination
  • Display screen equipment
  • Driving at work
  • Electrical safety
  • Energy management
  • Environment management
  • Fire safety
  • First aid
  • Fleet management
  • Flexible working
  • Fuel storage
  • Gas safety
  • Hazardous substances
  • Health and safety
  • Health, surveillance
  • Height, working at
  • Holidays
  • Homeworking
  • Human resources
  • Human rights
  • Insurance
  • Intellectual property
  • Internet and email
  • Landlord and tenant
  • Legionella
  • Lighting
  • Lone working
  • Manual handling
  • Maternity, paternity, adoption
  • Minimum wage
  • Money laundering
  • Mothers, new and expectant
  • Nebosh Certificate
  • Noise
  • Outsourcing
  • Parking
  • Pensions and benefits
  • Permits to work
  • Personal protective equipment
  • Pest control
  • Planning procedures
  • Pollution
  • Property management
  • Radiation
  • Rates and revaluation
  • Recruitment and selection
  • Redundancy
  • Security
  • Signage
  • Smoking
  • Stress
  • Trade unions
  • TUPE
  • Vehicles
  • Ventilation, temperature
  • Violence
  • Waste management
  • Welfare facilities
  • Whistleblowing
  • Work equipment
  • Working time
  • About us
  • Privacy policy
  • Contact us
  • Terms and conditions
  • Accessibility
  • Careers
  • Membership
  • Sitemap
  • NEBOSH certificate
  • IOSH
Promotion code: None

Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional

© Copyright Workplace Law Group Ltd 1995-2009