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Helen C
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I agree Colin andregardless of how long the probationary period is, an employee does not have the right to be employed for that full period and in most cases an employer will have the right to terminate the contract during the probationary period. However as you clearly stated, an employer must ensure that they follow the Statutory Dismissal and Disciplinary procedure if terminating a contract of employment during the probationary period. Also the probationary period works both ways. The employee may decide to terminate the contract. They have their rights too. The whole reason for the probation period is for the employer and employee to establish if the role is suitable. If the employee comes from an Agency, they will probably have been paid weekly and then change over to being paid monthly. This could have an effect on their work, behaviour etc because they have to work the first month in hand. Waiting a whole month to get paid can be stressful, especially if bills are waiting to be paid.
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Helen C
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Employers who use the symbol have agreed with Jobcentre Plus that they will take action on these five commitments:
to interview all disabled applicants who meet the minimum criteria for a job and consider them on their abilities
to ensure s a mechanism in place to discuss, at any time, but at least once a year, with disabled employees what can be done to make sure they can develop and use their abilities
to make every effort when employees become disabled to make sure they stay in employment
to take action to ensure that all employees develop the appropriate level of disability awareness needed to make these commitments work
to annually review the five commitments and what has been achieved, plan ways to improve on them and let employees and Jobcentre Plus know about progress and future plans
I had 2 disabled members of staff already working for me at the time when I decided to start using the Job Centre who in turn informed me about the sign
and its commitments. I am not aware of having to show proof, but I did have all this set in place already when I advertised a job with the job centre... I do not know how othere Employers have got on with this...it will be good to know.
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Helen C
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thank you for your post...I will look up the site after I have posted. Actually when I could not get a reference of my last firm I went it alone and formed a Limited Company. I now have a Business of my own and we do not tolerate bullying or discrimination of any sort. As an Employer, I have my rights too and am not afraid of speaking up and getting things out in the open if I see any form of bad behaviour occuring and I am aware that there are two sides to every story . I am fortunate because I have been on both sides of the coin, so to speak and it has given me valuable knowledge to understand the bully as well as the victim. A bully is usually a very insecure person who needs to make them self feel better by bullying others...thank you
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Helen C
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Thank you for the replies to my post. I am an Equal Oppurtunities Employer and always state this in job vacancies with the green two ticks symbol . In my post I said IF an Employer asks about a medical condition, not that I had ASKED.There is no need for me to ask because it has already been dealt with before the interview stage, and in some cases a medical condition has not been disclosed when the interviewee has been given the oppurtunity. I treat all candidates exactly the same and I certainly would not "use" a disability of one of my staff to promote that I am an Equal Oppurtunities Employer, My Company speaks for itself. It seems to me that I am expected to treat the disabled member of staff different to others, when it suits. When it does not suit I am told this is discrimination. As you said Carole, the difference between the disabled person and the non disabled one is that the disabled one knows that they do not have to disclose...so really thay are treated differently from the start, which is what they do not want! I think it is terrible that disabled people have been discriminated against at interview stage and I can understand their concerns, but we are not all like that. I could say that as an Employer I too am being discriminated against by being judged before the interview. I think we are losing sight of the fact that when one applys for a job, the Employer (not all) will choose who is best suited for that position and certainly. as in my case, regardless of race, sex, creed, religion and disabilities. If I choose a non disabled person for that position it is because they are the best person for the job and vice versa, if I choose a disabled person over a non disabled one. A disabled person has a right to use the DDA if they need to, as is their right. The non disabled person has no rights as I see it. They are told they have not got the job and thats it. They have to accept it and move on. That is my opnion on the matter so please try to respect it as I have respected your opinions.
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Helen C
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My Colleague is diabetic and I think it IS something that should be declared when starting a new job.....because it helps me and others to recognise if there is a problem. Instead of thinking "shes quiet today" and leaving it at that, the thinking changes to "Shes quiet today, she is diabetic, I will make sure she is ok" .Sorry its long winded but I know what I mean lol! Another thing, as I said in the other thread, why is it ok for a disabled person to go for an interview and blatantly lie and then get the sympathy vote? I notice it a lot on here. If a person who is not disabled tells a lie at interview, they do not get the sympathy vote. I am all for equal oppurtunities and rightly so, but it can not constantly be one sided. Personaly, I thnk Employers are in a no win situation..if the Interviewer asks about medical conditions at interview, that is wrong and if their dare should be a "discriminating" comment after employee declares it after gaining the position, it is wrong! I KNOW we are not allowed to ask certain questions at interveiws but please do not tar everyone with the same brush. I do try to understand that disabled people may not disclose this at interview so what do I do after they get the job and disclose it? In my eyes they have blatantly lied for whatever reason and to carry on letting them work for me would then be discriminating against the honest ones who came for a job! As a matter of fact, I have disabled people working for me and was once accused of giving them preferential treatment! Like I said, you just cant win these days! Please dont shout at this post, it is bullying.
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Helen C
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The Hierarchy in the workplace today has a lot to answer for. I worked for a Company where the HR Manager had Family members working for the same Company and other staff sucked up to them constantly...afraid of losing their jobs and had mouths to feed. I think this is why a lot of people who could speak up, dont, because of the consequences if they do and who is going to pay their mortage for them when they are ousted out for standing up to a bully, who is part of the Hierarchy themselves?! The last time I stood up to a bully and for someone else who was being bullied, I was ostracised by a majority of the "Family Firm" and I left because it made me so ill. The crunch came when I could not get a reference from them, which spoke volumes at interviews when I had no references...who is the interviewee going to believe when they are told that my old firm will not release a reference,and they do not have to give a reason why? I do not regret what I did because I refuse to sit back and witness abuse in front of me. One last footnote: The "victim" I stood up for, is still there and NO! He is not paying my mortage for me lol!
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Helen C
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I have posted in the immigration thread if you would care to read it..ithe white woman does not get a fair deal either
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Helen C
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Thank you for that Martin...I note the article states that the new system is meant to attract workers who will benefit the UK economy. I am experiencing discrimination myself : I am a white English born and bred Female in my forties and have been trying to get a grant for funding for my business which has been up and running since January this year . I have been offered loans
( which I can not really afford) but no grants and was turned down by one goverment organisation because I do not "fit the criteria"! I have paid taxes since I was 16 and believe I am a worthwhile human being. A Friend of mine from abroad has an up and running business and has had help from numerous Govrment Funded grants and has been in this Country for 5 years. I am pleased that he is doing so well and good luck to him, so what I would like to ask this present toytown Goverment is: Where did I go wrong? And yes Kuang,as in my case, it does speak for itself "lol!
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Helen C
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It is a criminal offence and a serious disciplinary matter to interfere with
any fire safety equipment (including smoke alarms, extinguishers and door closers)
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Helen C
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I find it very hard to get my head around this "love" word being classed as harrassment. I really think it is PC gone loopy! I just feel sorry for some of the older generation who have always called everyone love and now have to watch what they say, especially after a few drinks, when more relaxed. I can just imagine it: "A pint over here please love..err sorry..I meant to say A pint over here please dear *ooh is the word "dear" classed as harrassment too* err sorry love err dear oops.... I meant to say A pint over here please barmaid!"
the next thing will be the PC brigade saying that the word maid is discrimination...wonder what happens when a woman calls a barmaid "love", would that be classed as harrassment too? If not, why? coz then that would be discrimination aginst Men! You see, I could go on and on, thats how ridiculous it all is!
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Helen C
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How do you think it discriminates?
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Helen C
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I have never smoked and have been around many a smoker in my time and am in the best of health! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it lol! In fact, I have just had a clean bill of health passed by my doctor. There must be something seriously wrong with me...am I the only person on this planet who has not been affected by smokers? I have no problem with them at all and if my clothes smell of tobacco..hey! it means I am alive and walking around and what can be better than that! You can smoke around me as much as you like, no problem at all!
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Helen C
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the employee was being dishonest on his application form, disabled or not. He did not declare true information at the interview. This is discrimination against the employer here, not the employee, who lied on their application form by declaring they were in good health, when clearly they were not. I am disabled myself and would not lie on application when it clearly states about false information . He lied and whatever he lied about is irelevant or is lying about ones health different to lying about, lets say, having a criminal record, claiming benefits while working, false CV? I could go on and on but I stick to the fact that lies were told on the application form. Why should the rules be any different for certain people, a liar is a liar in my books whatever their status.
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Helen C
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a factory cleaner supplied by an agency is seen chopping bushes down in the car park with a saw and no protection. The agency is unaware of this.....is this allowed?
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