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Alex Gordon
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A bit of an over-reaction. I used to work inspecting tankers and their drivers and they have an extremely stressful and more importantly dangerous job. This group of emplyees are paid the same as they were almost 15 years ago. It's about time their wages were increased and I support them 100%.
good luck finding a country without strikes, hear China has methods to stop employees withdrawing their labour.
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Alex Gordon
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What I can never undestand is the wholly negative attitude to Maternity rights concerning employment in the UK. Yet across the North Sea in Scandinavia business engages completely and positively with society.
There must be some connection between the way we regard family in this country as a burden and the collapse of families in society in general.
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Alex Gordon
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To Don Searle, two words from your own posting, "Harriet Hormone", if that isn't the statement of an imbecile, God help us.
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Alex Gordon
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Come on, are you people serious?
First of all with regard to the "possibility" that any employer will be "sued" for a member of the public calling a member of staff "Love, duck or whichever term of endearment" is used in the North of England, where does this arise. Oh I see in the mind of the writers of that esteemed organ the Daily Mail. Well known for their expertise in matters relating to Employment Tribunals.
As anyone will tell you, you jump through hoops to get there and they do not tolerate spurious or absurd complaints.
Take a closer look at the opening two comments on this thread, from people on a site designed for professional use who seem unable to raise themselves above a level of imbecillity. Others, less offensively but with a similar degree of ignorance, talk of going to court over what is self-evidently an ET matter. So...
...here goes, I did not suggest that banter should be legislated against, I simply meant that the discussion on this thread had disappeared up an alley of "ee oop, when I were lad" navel gazing which was obscuring the fact that staff in the service industry should expect to be treated with a degree of respect which you would give to any other employee. I emphasised that along with my firm belief that I expect all staff to treat any colleague with the same respect that you would accord a member of your own family.
That seems to represent "common sense" as opposed to speculating on a piece of nonsense written by a reactionary right-wing propaganda sheet.
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Alex Gordon
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Enough of this cheery northern banter, there is a serious side to this which is that it is unacceptable to treat members of staff as objects.
A friend owns a bar here in Glasgow anf has operated a zero tolerance approach to sexual harrassment of staff for years. His reasoning? he wouldn't want it happening to his girlfriend or sister so why accept it for a member of his staff. Now that is REAL common sense.
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Alex Gordon
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Gary,
In short, your company better have a good and therefore very expensive lawyer...
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Alex Gordon
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Given that couple did not appear to object to the previous status of non-religious marrriages and did not appear to complain about civil marriages, then this is not an issue about the religious status of marriage but is more likely to be an issue about homophobic bigotry.
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Alex Gordon
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There is long standing and extensive evidence that music at work improves morale and increases productivity. This was extensively studied during the second world war and music at work was a significant part of the morale and propoganda operation exercised during the war.
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Alex Gordon
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There is a straight line from the negligence on the part of the company, to the injuries sustained to the mental illness developed as a result of the injury done and the harm allowed to take place by the company.
Any possible amelioration of the outcome by a medical intervention does not alter the initial culpability.
A simple analogy would be if you shoot a man, who is initially saved by a medical intevention. He then dies of a complicating factor. He would not have required the medical intervention had he not been shot and therefore the "shooter" is ultimately responsible for the death.
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Alex Gordon
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I'd say yes as a minimum to all three. You have a responsibility to your employees on all three matters and therefore would be required to have the information available for LA or HSE inspections.
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Alex Gordon
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That may be your view Michael, but in traditional Presbyterian belief the attendance at a Blasphemous event is seen as condoning it. It has been put to me that a believer should stop the blasphemy in much the same way as Christ expelled the money changers from the Temple.
I am not supporting or indeed condoning the action, but many stricter Christians who follow a sabbatarian view would not provide such a duty of care on the Lord's Day. Right or wrong?
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Alex Gordon
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"British" sense of humour. I think you'll find that most of these jokes were a cover for English anti-celtic racism.
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Alex Gordon
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As someone brought up in the Presbyterian tradition I may be able to shed some light on the matter.
The objection is to the issue of the mass, communion and transubstantiation. In the mass, the priest, is believed to transform the bread and wine, literally, into the corporeal form of Christ, e.g. into the body and blood. To traditional Presbyterian belief, this is a blasphemy, as the original act was performed by Christ it is an act that cannot be performed by a man. Therefore it was blasphemous to attend the mass. indeed one of the Scottish presbyterian groups expelled the Lord Chancellor of England, mackay of Clashfern for attending a funeral at which a mass was held.
When my brother married a catholic, the wedding mass was held the evening before in order to allow stricter members of my family to attend.
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