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Steve Rhodes
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There are two different scenarios which can be applied here, and numerous variations on each. Firstly, and I agree with Ian totally, the invited guest, whether to an office, meeting, hotel etc is the responsibility of the occupier in the event of an evacuation.
I am involved in a different scenario which is causing some difficulty and that is in the area of sheltered and supported housing which are home for people with impaired mobility of varying degrees, and generally deteriorating over time. In sheltered schemes there may be no staff present or a small number only. In such cases we are looking to design the buildings so that they are well compartmentalised and fire protected and are considering using a 'stay put' policy. It is our view that it would be more dangerous to have up to 30 people with mobility problems trying to move around the building without adequate support than to ask them to stay in a relatively safe area to await rescue. As I say there are variances, some homes will have people who can safely evacuate so as ever it is down to risk assessment of each individual case.
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Steve Rhodes
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Robert
Thanks for the comments, sorry if I did not make it clear. The form itself is for reporting all accidents, imcidents and near misses. The level of investigation on the initial report is very low key and appropriate to minor incidents only. We do indeed have a more deteiled form for investigation and gathering information in relevant cases.
While I appreciate your concerns about information I tend to work in organisations with an open culture and where in fact the claim culture is not paramount, not is a blame culture. We aim to learn from our experiences when accidents occur and are not afraid of open discussion. Insurers are aware of our forms and procedures and are quite happy.
Again sorry if I mislead on use of computers. Blank forms are available for printing off the intranet - they are manuall completed, not on line
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Steve Rhodes
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May I disagreee with both of the above comments. I do agree about the need for caution to make sure you meet the various legal requirements but see no reason at all why you cannot have your own form. We have devised a form which we use with our larger clients, particularly those with multiple sites, which includes all the information on the HSE form but also additional information for better analysis of accidents and injuries. We also make sure that a copy of the form is passed by relevant managers and the safety officer so that any issues can be picked up at the time. It also makes for better statistical collation.
The forms are self carbonated, pre printed or available of company intranet so no more expensive than buying accident books. Nothing against the accident book as for smaller clients we still use it.
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