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Michael Ney
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Good! At last the ICO has used some teeth on these parihas. A firm in Darwen nearly caught me but I smelled a rat in time and involved Lancashire Constabulary instead of sending them money.
Custodial sentences mightn't be a bad idea. Mr Khalish and Mr Subaran will doubtless otherwise pay the piddling fines, change the name and do the same even though they are now convicts.
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Michael Ney
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Whatever training courses the fitters have been on, the work is primarily one of dedication, thoroughness and practical skills. Fire extinguishers are fairly simple bits of kit, they suffer from corrosion, dirt blocking the working parts, impact damage and abuse. If the operatives have been trained and show those skills and dedication, then they are "competent". Much of it comes down to supervision. If you find that when you open up a water type extinguisher that has been serviced and find rust, a gas cylinder in poor shape, the handle mechanism stiff and inadequate to pierce the cartridge, the safety pin jammed tight or the hose perished, then the "service" wasn't competent. That is part of management.
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Michael Ney
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Something that tidies up the plethora of legislation and control such as BS 5588 Pts 1 to 20, the Building Regs, the FPA 1971, The Workplace Regs and so on has to be a good thing. On the other hand, self-certification, which is what it becomes, is only so good as the certifier's skill and knowledge base. Those whose skills are below par won't be discovered until, perhaps, it is too late. Suing someone afterwards or clapping them in jail achieves nothing; the aim is to prevent the fire in the first place, control and deal with it quickly and effectively should it occur and get everyone out and account for them swiftly and reliably so that people can be found and rescued if need be and firefighters are not risked unnecessarily.
For example, people are still relying on hosereels yet the Brigades hate them as they will not use them, they encourage people to stay and fight the fire far longer than they would once a fire extinguisher runs out, without protective clothing or BA and then they end up having to be rescued by firefighters putting their lives on the line. The quick assessment says "tick the box if there is a hosereel or extinguisher" without seeing the greater risks behind the provision.
The changes do need a greater policing role for the Fire Prevention branch to make sure employers' assessments are done and are of some real use.







