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At last comments relating to the problem, which we all see daily as small one liners like( And as for it doesnt happen in my area statement,I see the hooligans as you call them on a daily basis)
then what is wrong with bringing in legislation to help?
Don't let these breeds become as the Pit ball has outlawed.this started as a subject of dangerous animals
act, dangerous because of bad handling,spreading to known breeds we love.
nothing personal chaps.but we all have a responsibility to make our streets safer not say its someone else's problem.

This is a subject close to my heart. quite frankly this so called discussion is governed by those who are unwilling to pay out to implicate some form of control, blinkered not my problem.
Proving there is a snobbery involvement , doesn't happen here in my area (snobs)
And those who believe it can be controlled by jumping hoops and awarding rosette's
Hopefully you will never see it either, as I have its real, its out there,its both frightening,and dangerous.
They are trained ! by there owners to savage, to fight each other.
This is the underlined problem to cure. at least be real an constructive with useful realistic suggestions
Hooligan's train dogs to fight not fetch ball,s
Should draw some fire, reality does wake up!!! Thomas said show me the holes, many can there called teeth marks. maybe just maybe that's why someone has decided to address this problem with some form of law legislation.

Every one is correct no one is wrong, then we are screwed with no were to go,so nothing changes.no action no gain. so lets all turn our backs again is this what your suggesting Ernie?
there are plenty of contradictions and objections, but no solutions.or suggestions chipping could be a start how about age restriction on ownership for dogs in flats as Don rightfully says some older people rely on there dog for company, not to keep out police in a raid!, unfortunately all rely on police intervention to implement.
But come on at least try something, lets not role over on our backs, like the animals were trying to protect.

Thanks Donner,
I do understand that certain dogs are labeled and as I stated No bread is to blame only human intervention., unfortunately there has to be some type of controls to break the increasing bad owner,
Micro chipping is only the tip of the iceberg,and all Innocent parties will be first to suffer,yet we have to start somewhere or nothing will change.
Most idiots/louts obtain there dog from underground breeders if all dogs are compulsorily chipped police will be able to approach and remove all the un-chipped dogs from unlawful breeders and dogs on the street if unregistered and not chipped (that the hope).
society has become to lenient on wasters and scum minority's, its the animals that will pay the ultimate price.
I am certainly not happy with this, yet where do we start to control the situation?
No law abiding citizen enjoys the extra burden and cost, but I am sure a very high proportion of bad or irresponsible owners and underground breeders, will ignore the process as they ignore any other form of disciplinary law action.
might work ! something has to change.
I have seen youngsters hooded on the streets,taunting staffie,s as innocent people walk there dogs,and know of people who no longer walk there dogs threw fear.
Its the older generation on council estates who fear the most, frightened of there own children ,Grand children,petrified now of there pets,
Too many people living in privileged areas, not seeing the real life issues, unfortunately they also are the councilors, the decision makers divorced from reality.
As dog lovers we must make a united effort to change this now before any more breeds are listed as a result of man made behavior.
if as a nation we support this and it fail's then the law has failed us not us the law.but it is a glimmer of hope to move forward.

Is the nation blinkered? Or are some people living in a mythical world.
I love dogs and have owned both Alsatian and che-chon big and small,
Both for many years, 18 and 9 no problem with aggression or confrontation.
Never has it been the animal, they are a pack animal follow by example in there own position within the pack,
Stop this (my dogs ok )bit, it’s the same as a mother saying my Son wouldn’t do that!
Probably did but we protect the ones we love.
Bring in laws to control dogs, applies to all then may be the police can do there job in helping control unlawful, unnecessary, treatment caused by some owners,
All dogs walked in a public place should be on a lead.
There are many people out there petrified of dogs big or small; we all have a phobia of some sort in life why should they suffer. This would automatically cause confliction with the real problem, Owners with no respect for others, youths with staffy type dog culture who believe there dog is hardest, this is one breed we should all feel sorry for being used for a symbol of strength, there are more of this breed in kennels’ unwanted, disregarded, than any other breed. The underground breeder’s no better, supply and demand principle. Eventually it will become aggressive within the breed, then seen as another viscous type breed .(originally one of the meekest)
Laws to control dogs will hopefully protect the animal if introduced correctly, hopefully outlawing the keeping of dogs within flats, with no facility. Walking on lead in public places,
There are many fields open areas to exercise dogs if you don’t live near one, you shouldn’t have one, they need exercise good diet and grooming, if you cant provide the environment they require its just selfish, you are not a suitable candidate to own a dog.
Donner mentioned it’s the old who are to blame! not at all more the young. I won’t it now throw away society we now live in, who soon tire of the animal consequently the number now in kennel around almost 60% staffy, don’t take my word for it visit there sites collect your own results.
The people who will suffer the most will be the old, who want company from there pet. Spoilt by an uncontrollable, negative thinking, drug using society.

An apprenticeship should be over many years, five in my day,still two years after that to improved standard to fully qualified.city & Guilds.
this undertraining is more damaging to our Country,more unready, unskilled workmanship, run before we walk.
Raise the bar of standards (more like limbo dance under them!)
What ever happened to the true skilled British worker .

I have employed many of this type, qualified with no actual skill.
think they know it all but don't, count to 10 but cant tie there own shoe lace,
very good advertisement for employing foreign skilled workers.
Brilliant returning apprenticeships, if correctly applied will enhance the skilled workforce to ensure future industry,but there is no short cut to quality.

Bearing's bank was the result of under trained know it all employment in the yuppy days, should we not learn from mistakes?

Unfortunately I am one of those aging work force.62
Physically it becomes harder,fading vision, aches an pains,less energy,coupled with movement problems.
When your young, you really don't understand how older people struggle,
what percentage of our aging work force will be fit enough to continue into there 70,s? after working in labor intensive profession's in industry,
cut some of the red tape! encourage the young into work to learn skill's in industry to replace the ageing work force,instead of playing computer games in there bedrooms.as they are under educated without G.C.S.E A's to sweep the road. The aging workforce deficit is here, it requires real working policy not flogging the dying horse, the future is to go forward, it was never going back.!

If this person is abusive and uncaring of others with no respect for your company, as you describe, why do you employ him??

This is all very interesting undoubtedly people are living longer,
whilst many welcome longer working life, others in manual positions may through ill health or joint failure threw continual hard usage be unable to meet this commitment.
To increase the money in the pot and help older people,the world needs to stop the persecution of the old, placing more commitment on the ever increasing young unemployed, releasing younger fit people into the work place,rather than relying on the infirm who have worked all there lives,
It appears to me that figures to support future income are ill based as many will just never reach that target.!