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Carl Manning
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Trevor is right the delaership will probablynot have any dealings with TUPE issues.
There are lots of articles on here ref the amendments to TUPE.
You are raising a legitimate query and any organisation that has looked at outsourcing should have looked at the effects on employees as employee consultation is covered by other legislation as well as TUPE
Without wanting to sound rude, the normal reason people try and hide behind re-advertising is to give an opportuntity to prune the deadwood. Not an option I would advocate, manage the personnel under the existing conditions and tackle any performance issues head on. In your case makign th emove back in house is bold in this day and age, so ask what the dealerships drivers were? You obviously don't work alone, so could it the contract has not been managed as effectively as the dealership would like?
Personally I still feel your situation as described means your employment is covered by TUPE. Good luck
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Carl Manning
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Anglea the situation as you describe it would mean you wouldn't need to apply for a new positon as TUPE would apply, indeed is intended for!
You shouldn't be entitled to a redundancy payment as you would not be being made redundant! However you raise a point that you are being asked ot formally apply for what is your present role, unless there are major organisational changes or to responsibilites, you shoudl be covered by TUPE legisaltion. it is an emotive subject and my past experience leads me to the standpoint that TUPE is not very well explained to those most affected, because the people ringing the changes don't really understand the implications.
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Carl Manning
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A forum with two lines of debate one reasoned and trying to be helpful to others and a second rather subjective view. There are clear advantages to lower voltage and this has generally been recognised by the 'construction industry'. In the home, DIYers are starting to use battery powered tools due to their convenience.
As for 55-0-55 that still kills if someone operating the eqpt doesn't understand its construction and then places a modification that alters the earthing arrangement.
Unfortunatley Electrickery is just that a magic science to those of us in the dark?
CDM 2007 applies to all construction except those specific exemptions listed in the 'Regs'
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Carl Manning
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I agree with Craig, the Insurer should only be given information relevant to the claim.
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Carl Manning
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Craig your question isn't very clear; are you after specific hazards in your work place or just after general information ref HV?
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Carl Manning
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Apologies for the poor spelling and grammar! A quick re-take on the original post leads to a question. Why ask the Architect for an over view of a system they have probably contracted out to a M&E specialist? You will get diluted information.
I would have thought as the property manager that Bob would have been identiified as a key stakeholder and therfore involved in the project progress meetings and design review meetings.
I would expect the H&S File to have a specific Maintenance Strategy section in addition to the other points raised above.
Good luck Bob, sounds like you need it!
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Carl Manning
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An interesting point is raised by Stephen. My team act as the clinet's rep for all project work on site. The client being the company, who actually lease the site of the company's pension scheme (the landlord)
The CDM ACOP is available on the HSE site in pdf format, or hard copies can be purchased via the site or other means.
I would question Bob's Line Manager's grasp of the role Bob is conducting on their behalf. I would be very surprised if Bob's procurement arm had not included for suitable familiarisation training on all critical systems; making it a pre-condition of Practical Completion-a legal term see CDM ACOP:) The H&S File should be discharged to the client, there is still confusion over when. refer to CDM and there is no confusion!







